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Marc70 schreef op 15 maart 2014 14:32 :
Ik zou ook graag iets van mijn geld willen gaan beleggen in goudmijnaandelen, omdat de dollar gaat vallen binnen nu en 10 jaar verwacht ik.
Ik zou graag een mandje kopen van goudmijnaandelen zoals bijvoorbeeld de Hui-index , maar volgens mij noteert deze index in dollars.
Is dit dan geen probleem als de dollar valt, dat deze aandelen genoteerd staan in dollars ?
Check Your Gold Miners for Copper Exposure There is no such thing as a pure gold mine. Mines contain all sorts of metals, and those that occur the most are extracted from the ore that is produced and then sold into the market. Many gold mines contain copper, and so the company that operates the mine will naturally want to sell both the copper and the gold. Gold miners which mine and sell other metals will often use the copper they mine to offset the cost of mining for gold. Consider the following example. Suppose a company mines 1 ounce of gold and 10 ounces of copper, and that it costs the company $1,000 to do so. If the company is a gold company it might just say that it mined one ounce of gold at $970 per ounce assuming the copper price is $3 per pound. In other words, the $30 that the company made selling the copper is used to lower the reported cost of mining for gold. This is just an accounting trick and it doesn’t make the copper any less important to the company’s bottom line. However as an investor you need to know how much of your gold mining investment is exposed to the copper price, and some are far more exposed than others. Gold miner investors who don’t want copper exposure need to find investments that have minimal copper exposure. wallstcheatsheet.com/business/check-y...
Hedge funds (Soros, Paulson en anderen) gaan de goudprijs boven de $1400 duwen voor woensdagavond (FED). Beurzen omlaag -> goudprijs omhoog Beurzen omhoog -> goudprijs omhoog Een win-win situatie!
Gold Continuing To Lead Silver Out Of Bear Market Lows By Tiho Brkan | Commodities | Mar 16, 2014 05:35AM GMT ..... Gold posted a very strong week, rising $43.07 per ounce as Chinese macroeconomic data revived fears of a global slowdown, and geopolitical tensions brewed ahead of the scheduled Crimea referendum this weekend. Furthermore, and as shown on the chart above, the 50-day moving average closed less than $10 below the 200-day moving average, which implies that barring a gold collapse below $1,300 next week, we should see gold making a golden cross before the end of the week. Our analysis shows that, going back to 2000, a golden cross in gold is followed on average by a 50 percent rally lasting on average 15 months. A Royal Bank of Canada report shows similarities between the 2005 to 2008 gold price rally and the current gold price environment, which analysts believe could lead to a sustained gold price rally over the next 12 to 24 months. While still early in gold recovering from its lows, Chinese and emerging market gold demand combined with the absence of central bank selling both offset any ETF liquidations. Given the volumes seen in China recently, and the fact the Chinese market is not as price sensitive – thanks to high savings rates – Chinese demand on its own could replicate the 2005-08 ETF-driven gold rally. .....www.investing.com/analysis/gold-conti... Thanks to high savings rates in China! The Elephant in the room (China) bepaalt de richting.
Gold-finder schreef op 16 maart 2014 18:46 :
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Als de dollar in elkaar zakt, zouden de aandelen moeten stijgen. Vooral aandelen zoals goudmijnen die goudverkopen, die omschakeling maken lijkt me niet héél moeilijk.
Dat snap ik , maar dan moeten die goudmijnaandelen wel harder stijgen dan dat de dollar in elkaar zakt , anders verdien ik er toch niets aan ?
Marc70 schreef op 17 maart 2014 15:10 :
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Dat snap ik , maar dan moeten die goudmijnaandelen wel harder stijgen dan dat de dollar in elkaar zakt , anders verdien ik er toch niets aan ?
Ooh, dus jij wil een winstgarantie hebben....?? lol
DeZwarteRidder schreef op 16 maart 2014 15:56 :
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WM koopt goudaandelen waar de meeste handel is, maar als ik jou was dan ik niet luisteren naar de slechtste beleggingsadviseur van NL.
Hij denkt al vele jaren dat de dollar gaat vallen en dat de olie opraakt, maar helaas voor hem komen zijn voorspellingen nooit uit.
Deze man snapt hoe de aardbol in elkaar steekt: er komt alleen maar MEER olie en gas bij. Trouwens, hoe meer dollars er bijgedrukt worden hoe hoger de koers ervan natuurlijk!
Stock futures up, Putin comments ease fear of escalation Reuters 5 minutes ago By Ryan Vlastelica Related Stories S&P 500 ends at another record after strong jobs data Reuters US stock futures slip after data has producer prices down in February CNBC S&P 500 ends at record on jobless data; payrolls eyed Reuters US STOCKS-Futures rally as Ukraine-Russia tension eases Reuters European shares fall back as Ukraine keeps investors on edge Reuters NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stock index futures rose on Tuesday, rebounding off earlier weakness and indicating Monday's rally would continue after comments from Russian President Vladimir Putin eased concerns that tensions over Ukraine might escalate. In an address to the Russian parliament, Putin said Russia didn't want Ukraine to be divided further, and that he did not want to seize more of the country after approving plans to make Crimea part of Russia following a disputed referendum. Late Monday, the United States and the European Union imposed personal sanctions on a handful of officials from Russia and Ukraine who were accused of involvement in Moscow's military seizure of the Black Sea peninsula, in the biggest crisis between Russia and the United States since the end of the Cold War. While few U.S. companies have heavy exposure to the region, investors are worried that tensions could mount, or that Russia may respond to the sanctions with actions of its own. "The market is reflecting relief that this isn't going to escalate into a confrontation that could be messy and that would have an undetermined outcome," said Mark Luschini, chief investment strategist at Janney Montgomery Scott in Philadelphia. S&P 500 futures fell 3.6 points and were below fair value, a formula that evaluates pricing by taking into account interest rates, dividends and time to expiration on the contract. Dow Jones industrial average futures fell 18 points and Nasdaq 100 futures fell 8.75 points. Investors were also looking ahead to a two-day meeting of the U.S. Federal Reserve's policy-setting committee, which begins Tuesday. The central bank is not expected to deviate from previously announced policy plans, but as the Fed's stimulus has kept a floor under equity prices, market participants will be attuned to any hint of a change. February consumer price and housing starts data are scheduled for release at 8:30 a.m. ET (1230 GMT). Prices are seen rising 0.1 percent while housing starts are expected to rise modestly from the previous month. .....finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-futures-...
Reuters 3 minutes ago WASHINGTON, March 18 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer prices rose marginally in February, but the lack of inflation pressures will probably not dissuade the Federal Reserve from dialing back its monetary stimulus. ..... With job growth accelerating and industrial production and consumer spending strengthening, economists expect the Fed to announce another $10 billion reduction to its monthly bond purchases when policymakers end a two-day meeting on Wednesday. .....finance.yahoo.com/news/u-consumer-inf... Ik verwacht dat Yellen (FED) een maandje stopt met taperen. (Pimco en China zijn hun U.S. treasuries aan het afbouwen)
Wat zijn dan de vooruitzichten voor het goud?
Woensdag > $1370 Vrijdag > $1400 April > $1500 Mei > $1700 Juni > $2000 Juli = B_B op vakantie
Voor de bugs onder ons: wees voorzichtig! Zie bijgaande link: seekingalpha.com/article/2092263-the-...
Woensdag > $1370, steun van Soros, Paulson en andere hedge funds Vrijdag > $1400, Eastern Ukraine & FED April > $1500, China reveals Gold Reserves (1,054 tonnes in 2009), Bafin Gold Manipulation report Mei > $1700, Yen Carry Trade collapse, Margin Call Crash Juni > $2000, Grote aardbeving ... Juli = B_B op vakantie, geboekt
AEX sluit 3 dagen negatief (woensdag, donderdag en vrijdag).
Gold Drops Before First Post-Bernanke FOMC By Market Pulse (Alfonso Esparza) | Mar 18, 2014 03:45PM GMT Gold extended a decline from a six-month high in New York as speculation that the Federal Reserve will continue cutting stimulus curbed demand for the precious metal as a store of wealth. Silver fell. Gold advanced 13 percent this year as turmoil in Ukraine and signs of slowing economic growth increased demand for haven assets. Prices rebounded from the biggest annual slump since 1981 even as the U.S. central bank started to scale back asset purchases. Data released yesterday showed U.S. industrial output rose in February by the most in six months. The Fed begins a two-day meeting today. "We expect the Fed to continue tapering its quantitative easing as the year progresses, which would put a cap on gold prices," Abhishek Chinchalkar, an analyst at Mumbai-based AnandRathi Commodities Ltd., said in a report today. "We also believe the downside to be protected because of the lingering Ukrainian uncertainty." Gold for April delivery slid 1 percent to $1,359.60 an ounce by 7:55 a.m. on the Comex in New York. It reached $1,392.60 yesterday, the highest since Sept. 9, before ending the day down 0.4 percent. Futures volume was 35 percent above the average for the past 100 days for this time of day , data compiled by Bloomberg showed. Bullion for immediate delivery declined 0.6 percent to $1,358.72 in London.www.investing.com/analysis/gold-drops...
DeZwarteRidder schreef op 17 maart 2014 15:17 :
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Ooh, dus jij wil een winstgarantie hebben....?? lol
Ik wil graag de zekerheid hebben dat als ik goede aandelen selecteer die bijvoorbeeld 40 % in waarde stijgen , dat deze stijging dan niet met een aan zekerheid grenzende daling van de dollar teniet wordt gedaan. dat lijkt me toch niet zo vreemd.
Marc70 schreef op 18 maart 2014 21:50 :
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Ik wil graag de zekerheid hebben dat als ik goede aandelen selecteer die bijvoorbeeld 40 % in waarde stijgen , dat deze stijging dan niet met een aan zekerheid grenzende daling van de dollar teniet wordt gedaan.
dat lijkt me toch niet zo vreemd.
Ik vrees dat jij niet geschikt bent voor aandelen, als je dit soort onhaalbare eisen stelt.
Laat die duistere ridder maar lullen hoor Marc70. Je stelt intelligente vragen. Alleen de antwoorden daar op zijn nog zo gemakkelijk niet. Zelf denk ik dat goud al enorm in waarde gestegen zal zijn op het moment dat de dollar werkelijk onderuit zakt. Beide bewegingen zullen waarschijnlijk niet helemaal gelijktijdig plaatsvinden, en men zal er alles aan doen om de dollar nog een tijd te ondersteunen. Het zal waarschijnlijk ook wel een tijd duren voor het grote publiek snapt wat er aan de hand is. Goud zal dan al skyhigh staan verwacht ik, maar niemand kan voorspellen wat er gaat gebeuren en zekerheden bestaan niet in beleggersland.
Overvloedgolf schreef op 19 maart 2014 01:34 :
Laat die duistere ridder maar lullen hoor Marc70. Je stelt intelligente vragen. Alleen de antwoorden daar op zijn nog zo gemakkelijk niet. Zelf denk ik dat goud al enorm in waarde gestegen zal zijn op het moment dat de dollar werkelijk onderuit zakt. Beide bewegingen zullen waarschijnlijk niet helemaal gelijktijdig plaatsvinden, en men zal er alles aan doen om de dollar nog een tijd te ondersteunen. Het zal waarschijnlijk ook wel een tijd duren voor het grote publiek snapt wat er aan de hand is. Goud zal dan al skyhigh staan verwacht ik, maar niemand kan voorspellen wat er gaat gebeuren en zekerheden bestaan niet in beleggersland.
Beste Overvloedgolf, je bent nogal langdradig, maar je zegt precies hetzelfde als ik, namelijk dat er geen enkele zekerheid bestaat met beleggen.
Gold Pullback Likely To Attract Buyers By Peter Grant | Mar 18, 2014 05:18PM GMT Gold remains corrective after retreating initially on the heels of the Crimean referendum. While the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation is progressing, and the situation remains tense, markets seem relieved that there wasn’t an immediate escalation. As the FOMC begins its two-day meeting, they can keep negative price risks on the agenda. February CPI came in at a weak +0.1% m/m, which was in line with expectation, but the annualized pace tumbled to 1.1%. That’s down from 1.6% y/y in January. Despite deflationary pressures, tepid growth prospects and a weak jobs market, the Fed is widely expected to announce a further tapering of $10 bln per month tomorrow. This is the first FOMC meeting presided over by Janet Yellen, but anticipate Bernanke-esque boiler-plate about leaving rates low for an extended period of time and being ready to change policy if economic conditions warrant. Given the likelihood of persistent geopolitical risks and the fact that ongoing tapering is priced into the market, the recent dip in the gold price is likely to attract buying interest. Chinese physical demand remains robust, with 83.6MT imported through Hong Kong in January. While that’s down from the 91.9MT imported in December, it’s up a remarkable 369% versus January of last year. Additionally, Koos Jansen reported last week that 454MT of gold has been withdrawn from the Shanghai Gold Exchange year to date. Any notion that Chinese demand for physical gold is waning because the price has risen is at best premature, and at worse, pure fiction.www.investing.com/analysis/gold-pullb...
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