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  1. [verwijderd] 27 juni 2007 20:36
    Iemand anders meer info over Deutsche Bank (het aandeel)? Lijkt interessant en laag gewaardeerd, alhoewel de banksector vandaag natuurlijk slecht ligt.

    Onderstaande analyse is van Zacks vandaag:

    Deutsche Bank AG (DB) is currently trading at an attractive discount to both the overall market and its investment banking peer group. Furthermore, the company’s strong financial performance is supporting the stock’s year-to-date gain of 10.1%.

    Full Analysis

    Deutsche Bank AG provides a range of investment banking products and services worldwide. The company operates through three divisions: Corporate and Investment Bank (CIB), Private Clients and Asset Management (PCAM), and Corporate Investments (CI). Founded in Berlin in 1870, the company has grown from its origins as a trade relation facilitator, to a global investment banking powerhouse with 2006 revenues of €28.3 billion.

    On May 8, the Zacks #1 Rank stock reported first-quarter earnings of €2.12 billion, up from €1.64 billion in the year-ago period and €320 million above expectations. The firm’s investment banking business contributed significantly to the quarter, with a 10% rise in pretax profit to €2.2 billion. Also, revenues from sales and trading rose 16% to €5.1 billion. While the firm’s consumer banking profit slipped 3%, 558,000 new private clients were added during the quarter, most of which came from the acquisition of Berliner Bank.

    Chief Executive Josef Ackermann commented, "We saw a particularly strong performance in equity derivatives, credit trading and foreign exchange, where the annual Euromoney poll ranked us number one in the world for the third successive year." Furthermore, “Ongoing consolidation of our industry, including cross-border mergers in Europe, may create changes in our competitive landscape.”

    Full-year earnings estimates have risen from $13.96 three months ago, to $15.45 currently. In addition, the company is ranked a number one out of 41 companies in the Foreign Banks category, which itself ranks an attractive 38 out of 217 industries. Furthermore, Deutsche Bank’s ROE of 19.7% exceeds the industry average of 16.3%.

    DB is currently trading at a valuation of 9.5x current fiscal-year estimated earnings, well below the comparable S&P 500 market and industry average multiples 16.2x and 13.3x, respectively. In addition, the company is trading at 8.9x next fiscal-year estimated earnings, also below the market multiple and industry average. Lastly, the company has a price-to-book ratio of 1.8, compared to 4.5 for the market and 2.8 for the industry. Year-to-date, DB has gained over 10%, outperforming both the S&P 500 return of 5.9% and most of its peer group in the investment banking category.
  2. [verwijderd] 1 augustus 2007 09:30
    Krijgt mee klappen, maar publiceerde vandaag wel excellente cijfers. WPA voor 2007 waarschijnlijk rond 14, aandeel staat momenteel 98 = K/W van 7; als je dat naast de winstgroei zet, tja...

    Deutsche Bank reports second quarter 2007 net income of EUR 1.8 billion, up 31%
    • Income before income taxes of EUR 2.7 billion, up 32%

    • Total revenues of EUR 8.8 billion, up 27%

    • Pre-tax return on average active equity of 36% for the second quarter, 40% for the first six months

    • Diluted earnings per share of EUR 3.60 for the second quarter, up 48%, and EUR 7.86 for the first six months, up 41%

    • Net new money of EUR 13 billion

    FRANKFURT AM MAIN, 1 August 2007 – Deutsche Bank (XETRA: DBKGn.DE / NYSE: DB) reported income before income taxes for the second quarter 2007 of EUR 2.7 billion, up 32% versus EUR 2.0 billion in the second quarter 2006. Net income was EUR 1.8 billion, up 31% versus EUR 1.4 billion in the prior year quarter. Pre-tax return on average active equity was 36%, versus 33% in the second quarter 2006, on average active equity which was up by EUR 5.3 billion, or 22%, over the prior year quarter. Diluted earnings per share were EUR 3.60, up 48% versus the prior year quarter. Per the bank’s target definition, which excludes certain significant gains and charges, pre-tax return on average active equity was 35%.

    For the first six months of 2007, income before income taxes was EUR 5.9 billion, up 26% versus the first six months of 2006. Net revenues were EUR 18.4 billion, up 23%, while net income rose 30% to EUR 3.9 billion. Pre-tax return on average active equity was 40%, compared to 38% in the first half 2006, and diluted earnings per share rose 41% to EUR 7.86. Per target definition, pre-tax return on average active equity was 38%.

    Dr. Josef Ackermann, Chairman of the Management Board, said: “After an excellent first quarter, we delivered another outstanding quarterly result, with significant earnings growth over the same period last year. All our business divisions contributed to this growth. As a result, we delivered a very strong first half year, clearly demonstrating the power and resilience of our platform.”

    He added: “Looking forward, uncertainties persist in the world’s financial markets in the short term. Some areas of the credit markets may continue to experience turbulent conditions, and investors may adopt a more conservative stance toward leveraged finance. Our business model which benefits from rigorous risk management and independent control processes is structured to deliver performance also in the face of such challenges. We have consistently adopted a prudent approach to risk-taking, and the current environment is no exception. We firmly believe that these qualities will enable us to continue to perform strongly.”

    Group Highlights

    Net revenues for the second quarter 2007 were EUR 8.8 billion, up 27% versus the second quarter 2006, reflecting year-on-year growth in all business divisions.

    In the Corporate and Investment Bank (CIB), revenues in Sales & Trading rose 34% to EUR 4.3 billion, a second-quarter record, driven by broad-based performance across both Debt and Equities. Revenues in Sales & Trading (Debt and other products) rose 18% to EUR 2.9 billion, reflecting strong performances in credit products and emerging markets debt. Revenues in Sales & Trading (Equity) rose 89% to EUR 1.4 billion, reflecting strong year-on-year growth across all customer-oriented businesses and a rebound in designated proprietary trading. Both Origination and Advisory recorded best-ever quarterly revenues. Origination revenues rose 12% to EUR 638 million with strong growth in equity and investment grade debt, while advisory revenues rose 63% to EUR 256 million against a backdrop of strong M&A activity. Revenues in Global Transaction Banking rose 16% to EUR 656 million, reflecting growth in Trust & Securities Services and Cash Management.

    In Private Clients and Asset Management (PCAM), revenues were up 11% to EUR 2.6 billion. In Private & Business Clients (PBC), revenues were EUR 1.4 billion, up 15%, reflecting the acquisition of Berliner Bank and norisbank, together with organic revenue growth. In Asset and Wealth Management (AWM), revenues rose 7% to EUR 1.1 billion. Performance fees in real estate asset management rebounded from the first quarter, although they remained lower than the exceptional levels of the second quarter 2006, while revenues in retail asset management recorded year-on-year growth. Revenue growth in Private Wealth Management (PWM) reflected both organic expansion and the acquisition of Tilney in the U.K.

    Revenues in Corporate Investments (CI) rose 62% to EUR 259 million, reflecting a net gain from a sale and leaseback transaction related to bank-occupied premises and dividends from industrial holdings.

    Provision for credit losses in the second quarter was EUR 81 million, down from EUR 98 million in the first quarter and essentially unchanged from EUR 82 million in the second quarter 2006. In PCAM, provisions were EUR 124 million, up from EUR 94 million in the second quarter 2006, reflecting the aforementioned acquisition of norisbank and Berliner Bank and continued organic growth in PBC’s loan book. This increase was offset by higher CIB releases and recoveries compared to the prior year quarter.

    Noninterest expenses for the quarter were EUR 6.0 billion, up 25% versus the second quarter 2006. Compensation and benefits expenses for the quarter rose 27% to EUR 3.9 billion, reflecting an increase in performance-related compensation in line with strong business results and a rise in staff numbers resulting from both acquisitions and organic growth. Amortization of equity compensation was higher than in the prior year quarter but lower than in the first quarter of 2007. Non-compensation expenses for the quarter rose 20% to EUR 2.1 billion, reflecting several contributing factors, including acquisitions, higher litigation provisions, technology expenditures and other expenses driven by higher business volumes. The cost-income ratio for the quarter was 68%, down from 69% in the prior year quarter. The ratio of compensation and benefits to revenues was 44%, unchanged from the second quarter 2006, while the ratio of non-compensation expenses to revenues was 24%, down from 26% in the prior year quarter.

    Income before income taxes for the quarter was EUR 2.7 billion, up 32% versus the second quarter 2006. Pre-tax return on average active equity was 36%, compared to 33% in the second quarter 2006. Per target definition, which excludes certain significant gains (net of related expenses) of EUR 131 million in the current quarter, pre-tax return on average active equity was 35%, versus 33% for the prior year quarter, in which no such gains or charges were reported.

    Net income for the quarter was EUR 1.8 billion, up 31% versus the prior year quarter. Diluted earnings per share were EUR 3.60, up 48% versus EUR 2.44 in the second quarter 2006. The increase of diluted earnings per share in the current quarter benefited from the modification, in late 2006, of certain derivatives contracts, related to trading in Deutsche Bank shares. Excluding this effect, the increase in diluted earnings per share over the prior year quarter would have been 32%. The effective tax rate for the quarter was 34%, unchanged to the prior year quarter.

    The BIS Tier 1 ratio was 8.4% at the end of the quarter, within
  3. [verwijderd] 1 augustus 2007 14:39
    quote:

    Bookie schreef:

    In addition, the company is trading at 8.9x next fiscal-year estimated earnings, also below the market multiple and industry average.
    Dat hangt er nogal vanaf welke industry je ze in plaatst. Algemene bank of investment bank. DB lijkt me duidelijk meer in het laatste profiel passen. Dan zijn ze met 8.9x FY'08 niet echt goedkoop te noemen:

    CS 9.1x
    C 9.1x
    UBS 9.1x
    JPM 9.0x
    DB 8.9x
    GS 8.4x
    MER 7.9x
    BSC 7.7x
    MS 7.4x
    LEH 7.4x
  4. [verwijderd] 1 augustus 2007 14:43
    quote:

    BJL schreef:

    [quote=Bookie]
    In addition, the company is trading at 8.9x next fiscal-year estimated earnings, also below the market multiple and industry average.
    [/quote]

    Dat hangt er nogal vanaf welke industry je ze in plaatst. Algemene bank of investment bank. DB lijkt me duidelijk meer in het laatste profiel passen. Dan zijn ze met 8.9x FY'08 niet echt goedkoop te noemen:

    CS 9.1x
    C 9.1x
    UBS 9.1x
    JPM 9.0x
    DB 8.9x

    GS 8.4x
    MER 7.9x
    BSC 7.7x
    MS 7.4x
    LEH 7.4x

    Zijn wel Duitsers,heb inderdaad ook naar CS en UBS gekeken.
  5. jrxs4all 1 augustus 2007 15:02
    quote:

    kck schreef:

    [quote=jrxs4all]

    Me too,

    JR
    [/quote]

    JR,

    heb ook gekocht gister en vandaag iSh Epra,ter vervanging vd SD trackers.
    25% in de min in een paar maand ofzo.

    kck
    Heb vorige week de SD trackers ook verkocht.

    Deze week puts RD en ING geschreven, denk niet dat ik ze binnenkrijg maar dan toch de premie opgestreken.

    Nu dus DB, ik ga wel weer de SD trackers terugkopen. De sterke daling kwam met name door de financials en ik verwacht daar ook weer de grootste stijging.

    Gisteren en vandaag trouwens flinke outperformance van de SD index tov Eurostoxx. Dat is voor het eerst in weken,

    JR
  6. [verwijderd] 1 augustus 2007 15:06
    quote:

    kck schreef:

    KW volgens Bourso 8,3
    Ja, was maar een indicatie volgens eigen rekenen. Gebruik makend van winst EUR 7.86 voor eerste halfjaar, en laatste kwartaal 3.60 (= 12.5% boven verwachting), neem ik een winst van 14 euro over heel het jaar (dwz: 3 euro voor volgende 2 kwartalen). Misschien te optimistisch, maar ik denk dat die 8.3 toch nog moet bijgesteld worden om de nieuwe cijfers te weerspiegelen.

    Wat betreft particuliere bank of niet: ik ben particuliere klant, dus voor mij... :-)
    "Deutsche Bank is het grootste bankconcern in Duitsland en telt wereldwijd tot de leidende aanbieders van financiële dienstverlening. De Deutsche Bank biedt haar klanten een breed palet bankdiensten aan. De particuliere klanten wordt een complete financiële dienstverlening aangeboden, wat onder andere betalingsverkeer, beleggingsadvies en vermogensbeheer omvat. Het bedrijfsleven en institutionele klanten bied de bank een omvattend spectrum van het afwikkelen van het betalingsverkeer, ondernemingsfinanciering, begeleiding van een beursgang en het geven van advies bij overnames en fusies. Bovendien neemt de Deutsche Bank een leidende positie in op het gebied van de internationale handel in aandelen, obligaties, valuta, geldmarkt. Deutsche Bank heeft wereldwijd vestigingen waar meer dan 63.000 werknemers actief zijn. Ongeveer 40% daarvan is werkzaam in Duitsland"
  7. forum rang 7 ffff 1 augustus 2007 15:17

    Op www.manager-magazine.de zijn ze dan weer wat kriegel dat Ackermann NIET op concrete vragen duidelijke antwoorden geeft. Het magazine vreest zelfs risico's van meer dan 100 miljoenen.

    Wie deel 2 wil lezen moet zelf maar eens naar die website gaan.

    Posting is bedoeld om aan te geven waarom er toch nog scepsis is omtrent dit goed presterende bankaandeel.

    DEUTSCHE BANK


    Rekordgewinn, aber die Skepsis bleibt

    Ungeachtet der US-Hypothekenkrise hat die Deutsche Bank das beste zweite Quartal ihrer Geschichte hinter sich. Mit Blick auf mögliche Risiken gibt Vorstandschef Josef Ackermann Entwarnung, weicht konkreten Fragen aber aus. Experten erwarten, dass der Bank allein im Geschäft mit US-Hypotheken Belastungen in dreistelliger Millionenhöhe drohen.

    Frankfurt am Main - Der Gewinn der Deutschen Bank ist im zweiten Quartal um fast ein Drittel auf 1,78 Milliarden Euro und übertraf deutlich die Erwartungen der Analysten. Die Sorgen der Anleger vor den Folgen der Krise konnte Bank-Chef Josef Ackermann am Mittwoch dennoch nicht ausräumen. Die Aktie brach um bis zu 3,5 Prozent auf 97,40 Euro ein.


    © AP


    Großansicht


    "Sehr vorsichtig mit Risiken": Vorstandschef Ackermann



    Analysten kritisierten, das Management sei konkreten Fragen ausgewichen. Die Deutsche Bank sei gegen Verluste nicht immun.

    Ackermann erklärte, dass die US-Hypothekenkrise aus Sicht der Bank zwar Auswirkungen auf das Geschäftsumfeld habe, aber keine grundlegende Umwälzung darstelle. Die Bank sei in der Vergangenheit mit der Übernahme solcher Risiken sehr vorsichtig gewesen. "Daher sind wir fest davon überzeugt, dass diese Disziplin es uns erlauben wird, weiterhin gute Ergebnisse zu erwirtschaften", erklärte er.

    Viele Fragen bleiben offen

    Analysten bemängelten, viele Fragen seien offen geblieben. "Das ist natürlich schade - gerade in Situationen, in den die Unsicherheit groß ist", sagte Dieter Hein von Fairesearch. "Die Leute haben die Sorge, dass sich da draußen große Risiken befinden", ergänzte Analyst Alan Webborn von Societe Generale. "Niemand weiß letztlich, wann die Musik zu spielen aufhört und wer dann ohne einen Stuhl zum Sitzen dasteht."

    Anfang der Woche war die IKB Mittelstandsbank in Bedrängnis geraten, weil sich ein Fonds der IKB mit US-Hypothekenkrediten verspekuliert hatte. Die staatliche Förderbank KfW musste ihr zur Seite springen. Die Finanzaufsicht BaFin erklärte zwar am Mittwoch, sie sehe in diesem Zusammenhang keinen Anlass für weitere Sonderprüfungen unter den deutschen Banken. In Presseberichten hieß es aber, einzelne Institute hätten der IKB millionenschwere Kreditzusagen gemacht. Andere sollen ebenfalls mit den schlecht gesicherten Hypothekenkrediten spekuliert haben.

    Standard & Poor’s sieht Gefahr für Banken

    Zugleich könnten sich die Renditebringer der Vergangenheit - die kreditfinanzierten Übernahmen - zu einer ernsthaften Gefahr in den Bilanzen der Banken entwickeln. Finanzinvestoren stemmen den Kauf von Unternehmen mit bis zu 80 Prozent Fremdkapital – finanziert durch große Geschäftsbanken, die derlei Kredite syndizieren.

    Für gewöhnlich bündeln die Banken die Kredite und reichen sie an den Kapitalmarkt weiter. Angesichts der Kreditkrise am US-amerikanischen Hypothekenmarkt reagieren die Investoren aber zunehmend skeptischer. Die Konsequenz: Die Banken bleiben auf den Risiken sitzen.

    "Harte Landung nicht auszuschließen"

    Sollte sich die Krise an den internationalen Kreditmärkten ausweiten, drohe nach Einschätzung der Ratingagentur Standard & Poor’s auch eine Gefahr für die Bonität der Banken. Dies gelte vor allem dann, wenn die von Finanzinvestoren übernommenen Unternehmen in die Insolvenz gingen oder sich die Krise am US-Hypothekenmarkt ausweiten sollte. "Man kann eine harte Landung nicht völlig ausschließen", zitiert die Internetausgabe des Handelsblatt am Mittwoch aus der Studie.

    Mehr zum Thema

    · Kreditklemme: Welche Milliardendeals jetzt wackeln (01.08.2007)



    · Übernahme: Deutsche Bank kauft Abbey Life (31.07.2007)



    · Deutsche Bank: Rückzug aus dem Iran (28.07.2007)



    Wie stark Banken nun von der Krise an den Kreditmärkten tatsächlich betroffen sind, ist schwer zu beziffern. Die meisten Institute schweigen zu ihrem Engagement bei kreditfinanzierten Übernahmen. Noch weisen sie aus, wir stark sie in dem riskanten Markt für US-Hypotheken involviert sind. Experten der US-Investmentbank von Morgan Stanley haben gleichwohl versucht, sich anhand des verfügbaren Zahlenmaterials darüber ein Bild zu machen.

    Weiter zu Teil 2: Wie tief die Deutsche Bank drinsteckt



  8. jrxs4all 1 augustus 2007 15:21
    quote:

    ffff schreef:

    Op www.manager-magazine.de zijn ze dan weer wat kriegel dat Ackermann NIET op concrete vragen duidelijke antwoorden geeft. Het magazine vreest zelfs risico's van meer dan 100 miljoenen.

    Wie deel 2 wil lezen moet zelf maar eens naar die website gaan.

    Ik kan deel 2 niet vinden op die link.

    Maar lees ook even deze info:

    www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsa...

    JR
  9. jrxs4all 1 augustus 2007 15:48
    quote:

    ffff schreef:

    JR,

    Als je deel 1 op die website leest dan kun je op het eind van dat artikel deel 2 aanklikken.
    Overigens: goede website.

    Peter
    Peter,

    ik krijg het artikel niet te zien als ik die link aanklik. Er verschijnt een soort startpagina met per letter allerlei links naar online tijdschriften,

    JR
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